Friday, March 20, 2009

Feminism and the New Great Depression: What's Next?

From the thread at Rh Reality Check

Criticism of Feminism == Sexism

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This tactic has gotten old and worn, ladies.
I'm fascinated by your ability to sound just like a bitter, woman hating, white republican male who listens to Rush Limbaugh w-a-y too often and has never taken responsibility for anything his entire life. Perhaps you should move to Alabama or Louisiana and run for Congress.

This is a Basic 6th Grade Debate Fail. Ad Hominem and Slander. It no longer works, it doesn't silence men, and we don't feel shamed in comporting to how you think we should behave.
Also under new domestic violence laws the offender male or female is arrested by the police on the scene.

Not in many must arrest states. The officers must arrest the person most likely to do harm, and because men are biologically stronger on average than women, he is arrested and kicked out of his house.
Why is respect and dignity for women, so hard for the male person to understand? Do you believe we have to physically fight for this status?

Because what Anglo Feminists think of as respect and dignity is considered in the rest of the world to be the whinings of an ungrateful, spoiled, child.

Because you say you want respect and dignity, but the methods and results 2nd-4th Wave Feminists use are obviously ones of power, dominance, control, manipulation, dissemblement and superiority.

'Requesting' that men help isn't a request. You have shown this over and over during the past 50 years. What is first a request will soon become a demand, then it will become Law, forcing men to do as you wish so that you can be 'equal'. Then social and work mores and codes will be changed, and men will be forced to do what you think is 'fair', under penalty of law suit, litigation, and/or job loss and career destruction.
We get no respect or status in this world as women.

You are delusional. Only a woman who is a member of the most privileged, wealthy, free group in the history of mankind (American Women) would be able to morph such a status into one of impoverishment on all levels. American Women spend 80% of all consumer dollars, AW have a maddening array of legal, social, occupational, educational and other entitlements.

80% of the people losing their jobs in The Super Depression are men, yet you claim grievance and oppression.

This is not the response of a rational being or group.

I don't know why you think men get respect or status automatically, but to think so is the attitude of a child who doesn't understand the world. Men put up with infinite amounts of grief on a daily basis. We compete with other men, women, and now nagging harridans who have taken over much of the culture.

No one offers us a helping hand, no one opens doors for us, no one stops on the roadside to help us fix our car. There is no Affirmative Action for us. We are passed over at Uni for minorities. We are on our own, and know that we and we alone are responsible for our lives.

Yes, some of us are bitter. Because many women have treated many men so poorly at work, at home, in Divorce Court, in relationships, that we do not trust women as a group to act responsibly, sanely, with honor.

Yes, we ARE angry. We have every right to be when the back-breaking work men have done over the past 500 years to construct civilisation is lied about, dissembled about and made into 'Oppression' and 'The Patriarchy'.

You girls can change the U.S.A. all you want, but you will continue to get the same results. You will continue to be unhappy with your lives. You will continue to be stressed out, overweight, and masculine. Men will continue to back off from marriage, dating and committment. You will continue to hear more and more the refrain: "There are no good men left." That is because they cannot stand YOU, and have moved on to another country.

This you cannot stop.

You cannot force men to stay in the U.S.A. and deal with your crap. You cannot force us to love you, to date you, to marry you, to work less than you do just so you can play at being 'equal'.


Submitted by Lera on March 20, 2009 - 1:22pm.

7 comments:

  1. Actually, I saw the math, and it is true that women are suffering more from the depression than men are, even though it was mostly men who are fired.

    Bear with me here.

    Women spend over 80% of all money, though they make much less (due to their own lack of ambition.)

    The only way they can do that, is by spending much of men's money. Some guy not long ago worked through the math and discovered women actually spend more than 50% of men's earnings

    He estimated it came to around 53%

    Thus women spend more of men's money than men do. So, when a man gets laid off, a woman loses more than he does.

    Seriously.

    Anonymous age 66

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  2. "Thus women spend more of men's money than men do. So, when a man gets laid off, a woman loses more than he does.

    Seriously."

    What a load of B.S.

    You would likely agree with the statement that the biggest losers in War are the women and children. They lose their fathers, husbands and brothers, and their income.

    There is no argument for your brand of moral relativism.

    A man loses his job, but he isn't as bad off as his parasitic wife who spends all of her money and 53% of his.

    Your idea is nonsense.

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  3. Well, knowing Anon Age 66 as I do, his remark was absolutely tongue-in-cheek.

    Although I will say that men are taking this economic downturn better, as so many of the women are freaking out and drugged up on anti-depressants and playing the martyr and bitching about how their husbands don't have a job or money, while the men do what men do and Deal With It as well as they can, with stoic good humor and acceptance of reality.

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  4. I think '66' was stating that mathematically women have a parasitical relationship with men. Women strongly rely on men for financial (and every other kind) of support. The fallout? When a man loses his income it hurts him, but it (metaphorically speaking) kills her.

    In other words, when things get tough a man can adapt to circumstances and get back on his feet.

    When things get tough for a woman she will want to start looking for another man. A new provider.

    The relationship between a man and woman is analogous to that between a parent and a child. Women are as dependent on men as children are on parents.

    In the case of women, by men, I don't just mean a man living under the same roof with her. I'm referring to all the men in her life she calls on (911, plumbers, electricians, mechanics at the garage, the man who cuts her lawn, truckers who bring food to her grocery store, etc...).

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  5. And why should we men give a damn to the suffering and pain of women?

    I won't. I won't even call the cops when a woman is laying on the ground bleeding to death. Let her die. See if I care.

    No grandmother, mother, sister, daughter, girlfriend(long term with an eye on marriage), wife or 'female friend'(oxymoron here), so don't use the 'how would you feel if some woman close to you were in that situation' BS to try and shame me. I won't be shamed.

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  6. It is an interesting development that the FemNags are admitting their movement cannot succeed without Male Cooperation. It was Men who helped Feminism's Second Wave to happen. Warren Farrell is an Equity Feminist. He however saw the double standard. Then the Grievance Feminists attacked him as a Woman Hater.

    Women who are Grievance Feminists can eat excrement. They have been impugning Men and attacking us with the Government for decades. As such we have no use for them at all. They are reaping their harvest of hatred.

    This brings to mind the Geocities site Spinbusters. And Wootan is coming. Women have been bashing anything remotely masculine for decades. Remember how they reacted to Michael Noer's article in Forbes? "Don't Marry A Career Woman"???

    They wanted Him castrated, reprimanded, and fired. They are incredibly angry and vicious. Welcome to Grievance Feminism.

    Khankrumthebulgar

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  7. The Author: "You would likely agree with the statement that the biggest losers in War are the women and children. They lose their fathers, husbands and brothers, and their income."

    How can women and children be the biggest losers in war when the men are...wait for it....DEAD...

    Is it better to be dead than alive, abet a more financially and emotionally difficult aliveness?

    MEN are permanently injured disfigured disabled and DEAD, due to war...just maybe...they have it worse.

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